Black Veil Brides are one of the biggest bands in the hard rock scene. So big, that many dedicated long-time fans fear their favorite men in black may soon outgrow the genre and leave behind throngs of endearing fans in favor of writing mass-appeal hits.

Frontman Andy Biersack says that won’t happen.

In an interview with Radio.com, Biersack explains that although “Goodbye Agony,” from their new self-titled album, could be the band’s most mass-appeal song to date, he had no false hopes of writing a cross-format smash.

“I don’t think that we sat down with the intention of writing a song that had mass appeal,” Biersack says. “To say this is our cross-over song…because to be fair, in 2014 that’s kind of a fool’s errand to say were going to write a cross-over song for a hard rock band. Sort of like saying you’re going to be a rotary phone salesman and you’re going to paint your phones red so people will buy them. The fact is that we are a rock and roll band, and sometimes that isn’t the most popular thing in the world.”

Read more on Radio.com.

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